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  No longer to use "house to house record" slips and "please follow up slips"!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  a letter has just been read out indicating that effective immediately, witnesses are no longer to use the s-8 slip known as the "house to house" record slip, as well as the s-43 "please follow up" slip (usually used for foreign language people).. the letter stated that this is because of the changes in privacy laws etc that are becoming common in the world today.. i will try and get a copy of the full letter and post it asap.. .

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  cha ching

  This couldbe just to save money... No paper, no ink, no time spent printing...

  More money that could be used in the "worldwide defense suits" re: pedophiles.
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  Thanks Mom and Dad - oh, and thanks Mother

  by berrygerry in

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  http://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2013/2013bcsc2099/2013bcsc2099.html?searchurlhash=aaaaaqahamvob3zhaaaaaaab.

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  I can't even stand to read this, it makes me so mad inside. I don't need the details, I know the Borg...

  They have plotted and planned and raised lawyers and know the law, and are evil.
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  New Light - How would you feel reading this as a JW?

  by Ginx in

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  "scripture can be likened to a lamp which illuminates the truth.

  it's mission is to shed the light of truth.

  when a brighter light appears, the mission of the old one fades.

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  It is amazing how many religions/ cults say the same thing as the WT.

  They are not unique, but they make you feel like you are.... just like all those other religions do...
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  From 1 to 10, how do you rate the value of the Internet in your awakening?

  by Hidden-Window in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.

  i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.

  what about you?.

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  Altho we sliced and diced the Nov 2011 WT about 607 apart using the WT quotes themselves, we used the internet too look up the references they gave. Then we used the internet to look up court cases, read depositions, letters to bodies of elders, etc.

  We used the internet to confirm what we had come to conclusions to already... Coming here, to this site, we could not believe that 607 had been discussed / discovered/ disproven for so many years! Thanks to all who put in so much hard work!
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  Many Member Just Want to Believe

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.

  so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.

  " i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.

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  cha ching

  Very interesting, as I am always analyzing, "What can I say to 'crack the egg'?"

  In other words, I think that once a crack into the armor of JW's thinking is made, more info can flow into it. Having your wife think about subjects that are just like JW subjects/ controversies/ hypocrocies I think is a good idea, as later, it will alow her brain to 'take that route.'

  Just as the WT repeats, repeats, repeats, and things are grooved / etched into our brains, so too can WE start etching new grooves that will allow info to be routed there...

  If your wife hates it when people lie in court, and the pedophiles gets away, and kids get hurt when priests get moved from church to church, then she will have a hard time saying "it's ok for the WT lawyers to lie in court" or "it's ok that we didn't know that a pedophile was in our congregation"...

  My mom started studying when I was five... I am now 59, and i would not want to live a lie.... It was a bit hard at first, as I thought I had a very cozy future planned out for me by the creator of the universe. However, as nice as that seemed, I would never, ever, ever want to support an organization that lies, and uses people and harms people. Life is too precious.
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  The Watchtower 3/15/2015 Parables! New Understanding! plus More!

  by wifibandit in

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  http://imgur.com/a/e6dos.

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  Thank you Ann, thank you ALL, for sorting thru, for providing links, for providing simple "let's tell it like it is, boiler-downs" (wow, I like that word)

  My mother DID study all of this in the late 50's, I DID go thru all the type/anti-type garbage mumbo-jumbo through out my precious teenage years, spending eons trying to remember which type/ anti-type was which...

  SOMEhow, just having other people acknowledge reality is quite a bit of solace.....

  thanks......
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  1914 to 2014 and beyond.

  by tenene in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as jws "celebrate" a century of failed prophecy and cover-ups, what could we look forward to in their next 100 years?

  how much longer can they remain relevant in this ever changing society?.

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  Thanks for our new word Phizzy, you have started a tradition here... (Word for the day)

  Anachronism: : a person or a thing that is chronologically out of place;especially : one from a former age that is incongruous in the present

  All summed up in "A" word.
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  1914 to 2014 and beyond.

  by tenene in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as jws "celebrate" a century of failed prophecy and cover-ups, what could we look forward to in their next 100 years?

  how much longer can they remain relevant in this ever changing society?.

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  cha ching

  so whatever road to hell they take the faithful down, they will

  have all them dumb schmucks looking forward to the trip.

  Sooooo true... willing sacrifices.
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  So the year the FDS(1919) got appointed, Jehovah said it was ok to celebrate Xmas?

  by hardtobeme in

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  cha ching

  Good call Ann, we cannot t forget one of the WT's fave words.... "evidently"

  oh, and let's not forget what a prime role pyramidology played until 1928! when "evidently" the pyramid became known as "Satan's stone witness." (Before that, Adam was 'evidently' the first pharoah, buried in the sphinx. So funny, it makes you cry )
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  No, I'm not mad at you (JWs)

  by skeeter1 in

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  2. family

  i got a call today from jw relative, wondering why i haven't answered correspondance.. no, i haven't called or written some jws in my life for a while.

  i have chosen to not respond, or not quickly respond, to their inquiries.

  yes, i've even blocked some from my social media and e-mail accounts.

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  cha ching

  You know what is interesting to me? I hear phrases/ descriptions of JW thinking from all over the world here, and I have heard & know the same phrases, reactions, etc. We ALL know what an epidemic it is. These experiences show how much 'mind control ' actually exists. Their brains are "one" with "the master." So sad, so true.

  My dear son took a family in, who was in need of housing after a failed move to another state. This family of five lived with he and his wife for over a year. They became like family. After this recent 'telling the truth, standing up for what is right and for kids,' the men in our family were DF'd. My son was at a car wash recently, saw the wife and daughter come in (they didn't recognize him) he said "Hi".... She started to reply, with a smile, and a 'hi,' when she realized who he was .... "an apostate" who had once been one of the dearest people in their lives...

  Interestingly, she and her daughter decided to wait outside, in the cold, for their turn for service, but after 15 minutes returned to say "Well, we decided it is taking too long, we must go back "out in service."" She then gave some schpiel about "JW.Org" is the best place to go for help in this sad world, "you'll find all your answers there," and gave her a magazine. No scriptures, no nothing, just jw.org...

  After they had gone, my son went to pay for his service, and said, 'you know that lady that just came in? She use to live with me, and when I decided to change my religion, she won't even talk to me.' The girl behind the counter said, "Weird!" and that was the best 'witness' ever.

  My husband says, "One day he would like to achieve the attitude expressed by all on this thread." He feels like he has to be "all in" to defeat the "Big Boss" in many of the video games. Win or lose, he then wants to have the strength of your self esteem that remains intact.